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2nd Clarinet AIB Passed


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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject: In Memeory - HMS Lion |
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4 of 4 on this day, 1916
31st May 1916.
On the 31st May 1916, the following members of the Royal Marines Band Service gave their lives while serving onboard HMS Loin.
Musicians: J.H.Hoad.
I have posted below, the circumstances of that day.
HMS Lion was a battlecruiser of the Royal Navy launched in 1910, the lead ship of her class (known as the "Splendid Cats").
She was originally constructed with her foremast and spotting top behind her forefunnel; the heat and fumes made access to the spotting top difficult and after her initial trials she was rebuilt with the foremast and fore funnel switched in position.
In World War I she fought at the battle of Heligoland Bight, 28 August 1914, and served as David Beatty's flagship at the battles of Dogger Bank, 24 January 1915 and Jutland, 31 May 1916, and was sold for breaking in 1924 under the terms of the Washington Naval Treaty.
At Dogger Bank, she scored a somewhat lucky hit on Seydlitz which caused a cordite flashback which burned out the latter's two rear turrets. While it nearly resulted in the destruction of the Seydlitz, the Germans gained crucial insight into improving magazine safety that would make the difference in the future battle of Jutland.
In response she was struck by a salvo from the German battlecruiser Derfflinger which crippled her, forcing her to fall out of line and Admiral Beatty to lose control of his squadron until he transferred his flag to HMS New Zealand.
At Jutland she was hit by a 12 inch (305 mm) salvo from the Lützow which blew the roof off of the "Q" turret.
Dozens of Royal Marines were killed, but a far larger catastrophe was averted when Major Francis Harvey, the mortally wounded turret commander, ordered the magazine doors shut and allegedly ordered the magazine flooded, thereby preventing the cordite propellant from setting off a massive explosion.
He was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross.
The future First Sea Lord John H. D. Cunningham served aboard her as navigator for the last year of the war.
To those named above and the ships company who also died…..R.I.P. _________________ .
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Wee Mac Warrant Officer 2


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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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RIP  _________________ Once a Bugler, always a Turtle !! |
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Hornblower Major DOM


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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:44 am Post subject: |
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And a personal chuck-up for the incredibly brave and prescient Major Harvey RM VC.  _________________ ITMA! |
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sticky blue AIB Passed

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RIP  _________________ I love to cook with wine, sometimes I put it in the food. |
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StickyBlue Junior Command Course passed


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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: In Memeory - HMS Lion |
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| 2nd Clarinet wrote: | 4 of 4 on this day, 1916
31st May 1916.
On the 31st May 1916, the following members of the Royal Marines Band Service gave their lives while serving onboard HMS Orion.
Musicians: J.H.Hoad.
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Must be a typo Bob, Mus Hoad was on HMS Lion.
A point of interest :
In 1910 Capt. Francis Harvey RMLI became Instructor of Gunnery at Chatham Dockyard and the following year was promoted to major,a report on the gunnery school commenting "Degree of efficiency in Gunnery Establishment at Chatham is very high both as regards general training and attention to detail. Great credit is due all concerned particularly to Major F.J.W. Harvey, the I of G".
The strength of this report subsequently gained Harvey a position as senior marine officer aboard HMS Lion, the 27,000 ton flagship of the British battlecruiser fleet. Lion had eight 13.5-inch guns and Harvey was stationed in an office under Q turret directing their operation and fire. Under her new commander, Admiral David Beatty, Harvey remained in command of her gunnery into the First World War, his first military campaign.
So, he was another famous Chatham Rating, unfortunately it looks like his proficiency was his own downfall.
RIP to all
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When you've had the world as your cap Badge" |
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Wee Mac Warrant Officer 2


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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Major Harvey could well have been my paternal Grandfathers gunnery Instructor ? _________________ Once a Bugler, always a Turtle !! |
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StickyBlue Junior Command Course passed


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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Wee Mac wrote: | | Major Harvey could well have been my paternal Grandfathers gunnery Instructor ? |
Mine too Mac, as he also was RMLI Chatham, joined Deal 1914 then to Chats for gunnery and seamanship training.
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When you've had the world as your cap Badge" |
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