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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Cadet Drum Major Looking For Help Reply with quote

Greetings,

My name is Cadet Morfe and I am currently training to be the drum major of my school's regimental band this fall.  Our drum majors have used a mace drill style based off the Royal Marines Band Service for the past two years.  I have been taught, or have taught myself, most of the movements.  If there are any drum majors on this forum, or if anyone knows any that I could contact, I have a few questions I would like to ask.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post your questions and will do what we can do to help...
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STAND BY TO STAND BY...........INCOMING !!
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrJpig wrote:
STAND BY TO STAND BY...........INCOMING !!


......i hope someone tells him how to do the sausage halt....... Wham bam thankyou Dan!
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My foremost question is how to signal left and right wheels.  Say I'm at a right carry, how would I change to a right wheel signal?  Or a left wheel signal?  I want to know the step-by-step, hand-by-hand, beat-by-beat of it.  I appreciate your help.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Could take a few pages up.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right arm still carry into right wheel:
Working on left feet (i.e. as the left foot hits the ground, every other beat)
1. Cut the left arm to the side
2. Raise the right arm and the staff to the horizontal whilst the left hand grasps the staff with your palm facing forward (the staff should be in line with the eyes)
3. Turn the right hand and grasp the staff so the palm faces forward (prior to carrying this out your hand should be the opposite way round)
4. Pick your point and carry out the wheel signal.

Practice that and let us know when you think you have it cracked. Once you think you have it right, video it and put it on you tube and we will point out where you are going wrong.

Aaron, as well you know there has only been one Drum Major to throw his staff over the gate and there will only ever be one who has dared the sausage halt and lived (albeit a bit singed) to tell the tale who knows the intricacies of that mythological maneuver. To mention it in open forum could cause copycat attempts and lead to serious injury if people attempt it on their own. I hope that there isn't a series of people attending A&E units from trying this at home! Please people, DO NOT ATTEMPT the sausage halt at home even if you are supervised. We only ever had ONE trained professional who was capable of this and he has been scarred for life and he had assistance.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Well Done  Admin" will you inform us when it is posted on you tube.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

admin wrote:
Right arm still carry into right wheel:
Working on left feet (i.e. as the left foot hits the ground, every other beat)
1. Cut the left arm to the side


I take it this means to stop the arm swing and "check" the left arm at the side?  If so, how long is the left arm checked?

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2. Raise the right arm and the staff to the horizontal whilst the left hand grasps the staff with your palm facing forward (the staff should be in line with the eyes)


Does the right arm raise the mace alone, or does the left arm grab the mace whilst at the carry before the mace is raised?  Is the mace lowered to the horizontal below the waist and then raised to the eye level similar to a halt?

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3. Turn the right hand and grasp the staff so the palm faces forward (prior to carrying this out your hand should be the opposite way round)
4. Pick your point and carry out the wheel signal.


Understood.  I will get a friend of mine to record my attempts and I will put it up within a few days.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure the right end of the Staff (NOT Mace!) is pointing in the direction of the wheel, or it will get extremely heavy!  
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MorfeBD wrote:

I take it this means to stop the arm swing and "check" the left arm at the side?  If so, how long is the left arm checked?

As you are doing it say CUT pause UP. The staff is raised by the right arm and the left hand comes up to grasp it on the UP (the next left foot)
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Does the right arm raise the mace alone, or does the left arm grab the mace whilst at the carry before the mace is raised?  

Yes, right arm only to raise the staff
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Is the mace lowered to the horizontal below the waist and then raised to the eye level similar to a halt?

No, it goes straight from the carry position up to eye level.
You turn the right hand as the next left foot comes to the ground
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm finding this thread absoloutely enthralling, and extremely educational.
I promise not to interrupt the stage by stage lessons with my usual drivel,
and have detached and re-weighted my broom-handle for the forthcoming practice sessions.    
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The M1's Band Drill Staff was a broom-handle & ballcock! (Painted silver, of course!)
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The M1's Band Drill Staff was a broom-handle & ballcock! (Painted silver, of course!)


Thanks TS... Blairgowrie Public Heads now 'Out of Order' until further notice.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admin,

I think I have it down.  I got a friend to take multiple clips of me trying the right wheel and the cut-off.  I will put it up on YouTube ASAP and post it in this thread.  I appreciate your help.  It has been excellent thus far.
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