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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Drum stick grips and marching bands Reply with quote

Hello, i'm thinking of auditioning but i'm only remotely decent with the match stick grip. Would i have to learn to use different grips for different bands?
eg. traditional grip in a marching band or timpani grip in orchestra
Also, say i did manage to get in and then joined a marching band, would i also be expected to play the bugle?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Aeroastro, and welcome to the Forum. Being a former bass holder, I'm not even going to attempt to answer your questions, but you've come to the right place at the right time for all the expert advice you require.

If it's any consolation, I'm going to sit back and enjoy being educated by some of our expert skin bashers ever present on the site..

Good luck with your future career, and I hope you eventually manage to experience what we've all done before you...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Drum stick grips and marching bands Reply with quote

Aeroastro wrote:
Would i have to learn to use different grips for different bands? [Also, say i did manage to get in and then joined a marching band]


It would seem to me that you may need to do a bit more homework on the Royal Marines Band Service, to start with!!


Aeroastro wrote:
eg. traditional grip in a marching band or timpani grip in orchestra
Also, say i did manage to get in and then joined a marching band, would i also be expected to play the bugle?
Cheers in advance



If you joined as a percussionist then grip is your choice. If you joined as a Bugler then orthodox (marching band) grip is how you would play, Buglers don't play in concert/orchestral combinations.

Read the section of the Blue Band site about joining and the Band Service!! http://www.royalmarinesbands.co.uk/actionmusic/Index_recruiting.htm

And YES you would be expected to play a bugle if you joined as a bugler.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Drum stick grips and marching bands Reply with quote

Jimbo wrote:


It would seem to me that you may need to do a bit more homework on the Royal Marines Band Service, to start with!!

Ah apologies, i was never good with homework :P


Jimbo wrote:
If you joined as a percussionist then grip is your choice. If you joined as a Bugler then orthodox (marching band) grip is how you would play, Buglers don't play in concert/orchestral combinations.

Read the section of the Blue Band site about joining and the Band Service!!
http://www.royalmarinesbands.co.uk/actionmusic/Index_recruiting.htm

And YES you would be expected to play a bugle if you joined as a bugler.

My question wasn't too detailed. I should have made it clearer that i was talking about joining as a drummer.
Also, would anybody here have any idea if there would be a difference in joining the army as a drummer (the not navy army, not quite sure what i should call it to differ) and joining the marines as a drummer instead?
From what i've seen the marines sounds more fun, but i don't know.
And do drumset players also play snare and bass in marching bands or just stick to a set? Do drummers play things such as marimba and vibraphone, and vice versa? Loooots of questions ^_^
Thanks

Edit: I think i'm a bit confused, are people who join as buglers mainly drummers or mainly buglers? Or have i just got this whole thing mixed up?
If somebody could clear this up i'd be grateful.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Drum stick grips and marching bands Reply with quote

Aeroastro wrote:
Jimbo wrote:


It would seem to me that you may need to do a bit more homework on the Royal Marines Band Service, to start with!!

Ah apologies, i was never good with homework :P


Jimbo wrote:
If you joined as a percussionist then grip is your choice. If you joined as a Bugler then orthodox (marching band) grip is how you would play, Buglers don't play in concert/orchestral combinations.

Read the section of the Blue Band site about joining and the Band Service!!
http://www.royalmarinesbands.co.uk/actionmusic/Index_recruiting.htm

And YES you would be expected to play a bugle if you joined as a bugler.

My question wasn't too detailed. I should have made it clearer that i was talking about joining as a drummer.
Also, would anybody here have any idea if there would be a difference in joining the army as a drummer (the not navy army, not quite sure what i should call it to differ) and joining the marines as a drummer instead?
From what i've seen the marines sounds more fun, but i don't know.

Thanks


In the Royal Marines the 'drummers' (the ones that march at the front of the bands) are called Buglers, this is a traditional thing, so you would play a bugle if you joined the Royal Marines as a 'drummer'.

If you wanted to join the Army as a drummer then you would need to be proficient on all percussion instruments, but if you wanted to just play drums in marching bands then you would join as a soldier and do the drumming as a sort of 'part time' thing, there are no full time Corps of Drums in the Army, they are all volunteers from the soldier ranks and will be soldiers first and foremost. The Royal Marines Buglers are first and foremost part of the bands and work full time within the bands.

Like I said before, do some research and all the answers are out there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clearing a lot of stuff up, Jimbo. I think i'm swaying more towards joining the army as a musician, but i'll see. I might just join the navy as an officer anyway.
Thanks again
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeroastro wrote:
I might just join the navy as an officer anyway.
Thanks again


Well if you want to do that then you really WILL need to do some homework to pass the interview board - current affairs etc

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, "just join" was a bit of an understatement ^_^
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeroastro wrote:
. I might just join the navy as an officer anyway.
Thanks again


Nothing wrong with opting for 2nd best if you think the no 1 job would involve too much homework youngster..

Let me help you on your way..

Port is left and starboard is right as you face the bow (front) of the ship..

I think you have the makings of a great officer..

Judging by your user name, it would appear you were considering Pilot/Astronaut above Bugler as a career...Not much difference really....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well my name actually comes from some cheap trainers i used to have...classy, ey? Although it would be cool to be an astronaut
Anyways, being a musician or working at sea have both been things i've long wanted to since i was a kid (meaning a couple of years ago ), so both options (musician or officer) are good for me. Maybe i could try and be a civilian musician, but i expect i'd probably end up homeless with a sign saying "will hit bukkit fer fewd".
As for port and starboard, i honestly thought it was the other way round. *whistles innocently*

If you join as a bugler, would you still be able to play in different types of bands? I wouldn't want to play marching stuff every day.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aeroastro wrote:
I wouldn't want to play marching stuff every day.


you could play uckers and euchre quite a lot as well!!      
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youwah?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimbo wrote:
you could play uckers and euchre quite a lot as well!!      



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Methinks i'll just be a drum teacher mebbe 0.0
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you join as a bugler and then switch to drumming in a jazz trio or rock band or something?
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