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Hornblower Staff Officer


Joined: 01 Oct 2005 Posts: 3303 Location: Upper Tean - Staffs
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| admin@home wrote: | | Fred wrote: | | didn't he have his picture painted for a pub sign in Deal? |
He did indeed. It was for the Drum Major oposite the gates to the officers Mess (Jubilee gates?). The pub is now called the Cambridge arms I think. The Green Beret pub by South Barracks is now called the Green Berry... My, how times have changed! |
Strange that Deal appears to be getting rid of signs of its heritage! Are there any other indicators that this is the case?
Green Berry...  _________________ Know their knot!
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townsergeant Warrant Officer 1


Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 1414 Location: Great Mongeham
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Fred wrote: |
Mr Bass Trombone, I must have got the years wrong here as I was at Eastney so much during my time in the Corps - it was my home from home in the UK; trouble is you always had to do the swimming test in joining routine otherwise it was a great place, if a bit 'Pussers'! Perhaps it was the late fifties, early sixties when Geoff Knox was the D.M. Colin Bowden, I seem to remember, was the Corps Drum Major at Deal when I joined up - didn't he have his picture painted for a pub sign in Deal?
Fred |
Indeed, it was the Drum Major, now called the Cambridge Arms.
The CDM (Corps Drum Major, not Cadburys Dairy Milk!) at Deal for the painting was Charlie Bowden, not Colin.
I knew Colin Bowden, as he was at the Worcester Careers Office from where I was to join up, 36 years ago today!  _________________ Nill Illigitimi Carborundum |
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sticky blue Corps Bandmaster

Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 1732 Location: Over the hills and far, far away
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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F$&k me - don't time fly - on the 5th. Sept. 39 years ago I joined up _________________ Malcolm (Tommo) Thomas ex sticky blue
An advantage of growing old is that flossing your tooth takes much less time |
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Mr Bass Trombone Corporal


Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 439 Location: Spain
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Fred,
Sorry again as I said before Charlie Bowden not Colin Bowden(no relation) was the Drum Major at the RMSM in the late 50s and for many years after that.Just for the record Charlie was appointed as senior Drum Major to the Corps at the RMSM in 1952, Colin who at the time of his appointment was an acting Sgt Bugalar became Drum Major in 1958 with some divine intervention from Sir Viv.I am not sure that the late Geoff was ever Drum Major at Eastney I can only remember him at Plymouth,and I joined in Jan 1956.I know silly old B$£%*&*.
As for the pub sign it was Charlie not Colin who was the model for this. When this public house changed its name it was at that time run by an ex RM captain by the name of Tommy Lennon and his wife. Tommy in his day was a very good boxer and became an excellent coach to the Corps. He later became and a well respected one at that a Referee for the ABA. In the old days when dear old Auntie Beeb showed the ABA finals often Tommy would be seen taking charge in the ring.
Next month is bar leaning time looking forward to seeing some of you there till then.
Adios Mi Amigos. _________________ Mr bass trombone |
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Fred In Basic Training


Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 20 Location: Sussex
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't know there were two Drum Majors called Bowden!
Have Drum Majors always been Buglers before rising to the dizzy heights? I remember Sgt Lambing (Lamming?) who was a Drill Instructor at the Depot taking (Bootneck) Recruits through training. His ambition was to be a D.M. and he eventually made it in the late sixties. Whether he had been a Junior Bugler who turned over to the Bootnecks I don't know. Does anyone remember him?
By the way, our Kings Badgeman was an ex-Bugler; Ron Blemmings.
Fred |
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sticky blue Corps Bandmaster

Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 1732 Location: Over the hills and far, far away
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Things have changed but back in the old days thing were different - Charlie Bowden was a D.I. before becoming a Drummie - Buglers served with Commando Units and were part of the GD branch, did the GD JCC & SCC's - when I joined up Buglers were issued an SLR as part of their kit, and Wednesdays (I think it was?) after stand easy did rifle drill and weapon training as part of the weekly program - ahhhhhhhh! long time ago _________________ Malcolm (Tommo) Thomas ex sticky blue
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townsergeant Warrant Officer 1


Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 1414 Location: Great Mongeham
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Fred wrote: | I didn't know there were two Drum Majors called Bowden!
Have Drum Majors always been Buglers before rising to the dizzy heights? I remember Sgt Lambing (Lamming?) who was a Drill Instructor at the Depot taking (Bootneck) Recruits through training. His ambition was to be a D.M. and he eventually made it in the late sixties. Whether he had been a Junior Bugler who turned over to the Bootnecks I don't know. Does anyone remember him?
By the way, our Kings Badgeman was an ex-Bugler; Ron Blemmings.
Fred |
I do Fred. Alfie Laming was the Drum Major when I joined Plymouth (Commando Forces Band) in 1973.
He was a King's Badgeman. He wouldn't issue us with the Prince of Wales' Plumes until we learnt the reason why we wore them.... Bloody right and all!
He went on to be a member of the Queen's Bodyguard...
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Fred In Basic Training


Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 20 Location: Sussex
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hence the thin red stripe (welt) on the trousers? Buglers went into battle with ordinary Marines in Crimea, etc, I believe.
Fred |
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Fred In Basic Training


Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 20 Location: Sussex
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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He went on to be a member of the Queen's Bodyguard...
Same as Roger Tyack (RSM).
Fred |
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sticky blue Corps Bandmaster

Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 1732 Location: Over the hills and far, far away
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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They very proberbly did Fred - you could say that Buglers were the radio operators of their day - telling the troops what to do via the bugle called played _________________ Malcolm (Tommo) Thomas ex sticky blue
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RAB Light Division Bulge Major


Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 4894 Location: Perthshire....Playing in the lifts...
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Fred wrote: | He went on to be a member of the Queen's Bodyguard...
Same as Roger Tyack (RSM).
Fred |
Tyack..??? Now there's a name I won't forget...He was a real hardy piece of work.. But if I remember correctly he was fond of the Bandies...  _________________ 'Never moon a werewolf'. |
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sticky blue Corps Bandmaster

Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 1732 Location: Over the hills and far, far away
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Tyack - seem to have a distant memory of that name ? _________________ Malcolm (Tommo) Thomas ex sticky blue
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RAB Light Division Bulge Major


Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 4894 Location: Perthshire....Playing in the lifts...
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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I think you're trying to blot out the memory Tommo..
He was RSM at our passing out parade.. And MacAvoy was the Sergeant Major who marched us on...
We'll have to ask Ffoggers or Hornblower if they can name the march...  _________________ 'Never moon a werewolf'. |
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sticky blue Corps Bandmaster

Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 1732 Location: Over the hills and far, far away
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| RAB(Jock)THOMSON wrote: | I think you're trying to blot out the memory Tommo..
He was RSM at our passing out parade.. And was the Sergeant Major who marched us on...
We'll have to ask Ffoggers or Hornblower if they can name the march...  |
another one I'm trying to blot out  _________________ Malcolm (Tommo) Thomas ex sticky blue
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RAB Light Division Bulge Major


Joined: 09 Oct 2005 Posts: 4894 Location: Perthshire....Playing in the lifts...
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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..Mr Macavoy went on to own a pub near the railway station in Arbroath...I took great delight in ORDERING a pint from him...  _________________ 'Never moon a werewolf'. |
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