
Bronco
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BUGLERS TIEIn 1972 when i was a Junior Bugler, John Satchwell the Corps Bugle major said to all of us juniors one morning. " right boys, this is a buglers tie and i want you to buy one and wear it with pride as a member of the buglers branch". One of the Juniors who ( surprise, surprise) never finished training said " i don't have to buy one if i don't have to". 'Satch' glowing with rage and with a clenched fist firmly placed under the poor junior buglers chin said "LOYALTY, THIS IS LOYALTY AND I'M GOING TO HIT YOU WITH THE BUGGER IN A MINUTE". the junior replied, " can i have two Bugle Major".
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Dan A
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ahhhhhhhh Bronco... about time someone mentioned Satch... What a guy........ in his defence he was loyalty personified to the branch and woe betide anyone who dissed bulgers in his presence, particularly Bandies of any rank....... He is still alive and kicking in Sydney Australia.... and did come over for an Inverted Chevrons Dinner and Buglers Reunion a few years ago before Deal closed. No great performer, conductor ot writer... but an old school character..... and what a run ashore!!!! He was a one time valet to the Duke of Edinburgh at the Palace. Satch a legend in his own lunchtime....... not many SNCO's today have the courage to speak their mind as he did.
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Bronco
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Quite agree Dan. Let's have more dit's about the man himself. I remember Horseguards rehearsals one year when 'Satch' decided to inspect the Buglers. He said to me "Lane boy, your traces are to long, shorten them". I thought about it and decided it was to much hassle, so i took my drum sling up a notch which obviously lifted the drum higher up. On his next inspection, 'Satch' looked at them and said to me, "thats better boy". On another occassion, Myself, Snake Sessions and some others were in one of the classrooms practicing when 'Satch's' young son ( i think he was around 8-9yrs at the time, and looked just like him )kept annoying us, so one of the buglers gave him a clip around the ear. He went running into his office crying saying " Dad, Dad they smacked me." At this point we thought S**T. we then heard THWACK, " WELL THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, STOP ANNOYING THE BUGLERS"
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glynfreeman
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How could anyone forget the infamous question from Noddy Neville - "Are the Buglers playing in unison Bugle Major"?
"No sir - they are all playing the same"
Good old Satch - God bless him
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Dan A
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God may bless him but he had better not pi$$ him off!!
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Co-admin
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Satch... what a guy!
We met him in Oz when Dave Dawson sorted us out with a mess beatings at his RSL for "as much beer as the buggers can drink".
One of the dance band happened to think it would be a good idea to offer their services as well and Satch was told. "OK, they can come as well" the man said
We rocked up and did the gig, Dave Dawson told us to get changed and come back over and he introduced us. Satch shook each of us by the hand and thanked us. "There are pitchers of beer over there for you lads and they won't be empty all night, the staff have been told to make sure they aren't". The dance band started playing and one of the musicians came over to ask for some beer for the band.
Satch looked him straight in the eye and said "Here you go bandy, take this up for the bandies to share... make sure it lasts them cos it's the only one I'm buying them. The FREE beer is for my boys and I never asked you to come!"
If you cut him in half he'd have a light infantry bugle running right through him. A real Bugler's Bugler!
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Hornblower
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A bit like Scotland not supporting England at anything, don't ya think?
I've always got by with people with that sort of attitude actually - it's easy really - don't expect them to be anything other than you would expect them to be.
It's people with high expectations that get disappointed in this life.
Ah, the RMBS - it taught me so much in life.
Satch shouted at me once - hope he remembers the content 'cos I don't.
Why is it that those people that treated me like a child expected me to react as an adult? (Are you reading this MJ?)
Duh!!!
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Bronco
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Great Story Deli. this reflects the best CBM the branch ever had ( in my opinion).
On the 1974 Tournament we marched on in a block (as you did ) to Army of the Nile ( no stick drill). During rehearsals in the arena, 'Satch' said " RIGHT BOYS, YOU'LL GET A DOUBLE BASSDRUM BEAT TO OPEN OUT TO TWENTY ACROSS, AT THE END OF THE SECOND TIME BAR ,DOM DIGGY DOM DIGGY DOM, YOU'LL COME TO THE READY TO COMMENCE STICKDRILL, AND THE CROWD WILL THINK BLOODY HELL FIRE WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW". 'Satch' always had a way with words and Dave Clay ( ex Bulger) always loved that story. ( we were there when he said it and rolled up )
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Co-admin
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Stu, you are indeed right. Some of my best oppos are from the band and also the general corps. I've always paid lip service to the 'them and us' way of doing things and kept it as the banter that it should be.
Satch was a true one of a kind. Wasn't it he who took the phone out to the PDM and say there was a call for him (this was long before cordless phones were even thought of!)?
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Hornblower
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Actually - I think it was the 'MJ' I refer to above!!
I wasn't there though unfortunately...
I had received a blow to the head in a Chatham band rugby match and been tipped into RNH Hasler to fall in love with Nurse Porter (real name, but I doubt she remembers mine) for a week instead.
Long story short, I didn't go to the Antipodes and I live to regret ever playing the most stupid game (to play, not watch) ever invented.
Drinking ice cold beer and throwing up ice cubes would have been far more fun. (Oh - and getting up MJ's nose, as a bonus, woulda been great too).
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Hornblower
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One other thing - bulgers are great.
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FFoglamp
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Oi, Stu !!!!
Whos MJ ?
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bootybandy
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Could be Stu's bestest oppo......Mick J@n€$
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Hornblower
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| bootybandy wrote: | | Could be Stu's bestest oppo......Mick J@n€$ |
:smt046 :smt046 :smt046
ROFLMFHO
It was he OK! My good friend. We had some run in's I can tell ya! Some I won, some I lost - but it was the taking part that counted....
Nobody ever got him better than my old oppo Tim Dickinson. MJ was bawling him out the way that only he could (he was 'only' a Sergeant at this point) and was shouting some really inane things at a very intelligent guy. I knew this 'cos I was the other side of a hatch earwiggin'.
Tim says, "So you think I'm stupid do you? In that case we'll continue this 'interview' in German.
And he did, not another word came out in English. Good man Tim - whatever happened to you?
As for MJ? Well, he went on to much bigger and better things. Didn't he?
We exchanged e mails a couple of years ago - and I'm big enough to forgive and forget. Not before I put him straight on a few points though!!!!
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RAB
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| Hornblower wrote: | | A bit like Scotland not supporting England at anything, don't ya think? |
:smt046 If this was bait for me Stu,..Gobbled up with both mouths mate..
I think I've explained before, according to your Sports Presenters, England don't need any support..Apparently even this year's World Cup is in the bag... ..
Besides,...Where the Hell can us Jocks find the time to support our greatest rivals, when we're so bad at most things, we need all the support we can muster ourselves.. ??.. ..
Except the fine art of CURLING of course.....
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Hornblower
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Naahhhh mate!
Once you get to know me, you'll realise that I'll get a nibble off anyone who likes to take a bite.
I very rarely aim a comment at anyone - I prefer the 'scatter-shot' effect. Throw out a line and see how many you can reel in.
No offence meant or intended.
I'd do the same for a bulger...
(See what I mean about the scatter-shot?)
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FFoglamp
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Oh. THAT MJ. To be honest, I would never have guessed it, because Mick Jones was very good to me. (weren't you there for the gib trip, Stu ?)
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bootybandy
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| Hornblower wrote: | | bootybandy wrote: | | Could be Stu's bestest oppo......Mick J@n€$ |
:smt046 :smt046 :smt046
ROFLMFHO
It was he OK! My good friend. We had some run in's I can tell ya! Some I won, some I lost - but it was the taking part that counted....
Nobody ever got him better than my old oppo Tim Dickinson. MJ was bawling him out the way that only he could (he was 'only' a Sergeant at this point) and was shouting some really inane things at a very intelligent guy. I knew this 'cos I was the other side of a hatch earwiggin'.
Tim says, "So you think I'm stupid do you? In that case we'll continue this 'interview' in German.
And he did, not another word came out in English. Good man Tim - whatever happened to you?
As for MJ? Well, he went on to much bigger and better things. Didn't he?
We exchanged e mails a couple of years ago - and I'm big enough to forgive and forget. Not before I put him straight on a few points though!!!!
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I always thought that Tim offered him the opportunity to conduct the argument in Latin not German, but I may have got that wrong, but Latin does seem to be one of the languages that stuck in my mind that Tim would use.
Last time I heard Tim was a manager of an electronics store in Southsea, but that was a number of years ago.
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Hornblower
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Bri - I was very close to writing Latin because that's what I thought he was using at the time - but it seemed a bit improbable, so I left it at German which I know he speaks fluently.
I'd love to get in touch with Tim again, he was my 1st best man!!
Mark - Trouble with me and MJ was that we went back so far, I think I must have nicked something off him when he was a Corporal. (His dignity and credibility seems favourite)
I don't suppose it helped on one occasion when he walked into the heads whilst I was shaving one morning and said, "I think I'll have a purge on haircuts this morning, you're first Thorn..."
My reply, "Fcuk off prick" was calculated to offend.
I think he thought he could tame me. WRONG!
Actually, I think we parted under reasonable terms - we were both glad to see the back of each other.
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Mac McMac
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Royal Tournament 1974I know Bronco's dit was posted way back but I have to do this or I'll have bad dreams.
RT 1974.
Order of music was,
Mountbatten March, Seminovsky, On Parade, Drum Torque, Black Bear, Shrewsbury Fair, Battle of Trafalgar.
As we started the "buglers week" in Deal, Satch was telling us that each performance would begin with a fanfare, using Herald trumpets. This would involve our own buglers and an equal number from London Transport. He obviousy did not say that. He told us that the other trumpeters, would be from the "Royal Blues"
Could some one please tell the dit, where Satch forgot to C/march for the Drum routine on Horse Guards. I can't remember if it was the gig , or rehearsal?
And I'm getting old, so I have to take me pills and go to bed.
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Errol
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| RAB wrote: | | Hornblower wrote: | | A bit like Scotland not supporting England at anything, don't ya think? |
:smt046 If this was bait for me Stu,..Gobbled up with both mouths mate..
I think I've explained before, according to your Sports Presenters, England don't need any support..Apparently even this year's World Cup is in the bag... ..
Besides,...Where the Hell can us Jocks find the time to support our greatest rivals, when we're so bad at most things, we need all the support we can muster ourselves.. ??.. ..
Except the fine art of CURLING of course.....
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Might care to add Chris Hoy there Rab. Good on him ..3 Golds.
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Errol
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Getting back to JS who was such a strong character in the Corps.
Doe,s anyone recall doing massed bands and John yelling 'form a diamond'
complete mayhem followed that one.
Two dits I recall when I was one of his Instructors in the wing.
At the time Monty Python was the in TV prog. There was a sketch where the
Ice cream seller was trying to sell Albatross flavoured Ice cream.The 'in' saying was calling out 'Albatross',Albatross. Obviously Satch had,nt seen this episode and
one lunchtime in the Nelson in the company of myself, Jim Trewerne and Robbie Evernden out shouts Satch in the middle of our conflab..Albert Ross,Albert Ross.
At first we were mystified what he was on about..then the penny dropped.
Same location same staff discussing branch matters.
The Nelson used to sell lovely toasted sandwiches. Satch orders one and as we
were chatting, without looking, he picks up his,takes a bite and states ,Cor these are lovely arn't they.
He had,nt taken the wrapper off. We just curled up.
Tr
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riknoc310
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Yes Erroll, The place North Drill shed Deal RT rehearsals, 40 Buglers heading towards each other on a colision course, When those imortal words bellowed out,
"Form a Diamond" After the carnage Satch said "Whats wrong with you lot this morning, " You,ve all done it before"
I remember all three of those Eroll and still smile at them today, wonder what happened to Albert Ross ha ha
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riknoc310
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Remember the Missed "Last Post & Revelle! at Deal church on rememberance day.
I thought everyone knew its the eleventh hour of the eleventh day ect that Last Post is sounded, but Satch had a word with the Pardre, who had informed him he was doing a large sermon and this one would be late, do you remember running from the cottage to the church at 1105 only to find we had missed it.
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Errol
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| riknoc310 wrote: | Remember the Missed "Last Post & Revelle! at Deal church on rememberance day.
I thought everyone knew its the eleventh hour of the eleventh day ect that Last Post is sounded, but Satch had a word with the Pardre, who had informed him he was doing a large sermon and this one would be late, do you remember running from the cottage to the church at 1105 only to find we had missed it. |
I was'nt doing the depot church as I done the Deal Hospital that day.I remember coming in to get get my gear done and finding you all there.
Suprised or what.
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Mac McMac
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After I had been out of the box for a year or two and in Stonehouse, we went to Deal for Massed Bands. Jim Trewern asked how I had got back so quick?
I asked him what he meant? Apparently, according to Satch and his State board, I was serving with a Commando unit, somewhere in the far east. No wonder i was able to remain in Stonehouse for all those years.
In 1973, on Horse Guards rehearsals, I was not quite 19. In those days, a bugler of my age, had his place in the order of things and behaved accordingly. Ie, did not act like a teenage 3 badgeman.
We were practicing the Intro to Drum Torque, where Satch had us coming in on every crotchet. Not paying attention, I missed my entry, which was spotted by Satch. He told me that if i did It again, he would send me home. How upset I was and would have been. I actually wanted to be there!. A lot more of the older branch members, started to get it wrong after that. They would not do that today,........... would they????????
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