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HMS Pembroke

JC started with his piece on Depot RM Deal.

So, I thought, why not do it for all our old and current bases including the steel ships as well as the stone ones.

Please feel free to add, correct or contribute to this thread and or start your own for where you served.

This will add to the historical data we already have on here letting current and future and past members see where we served and as a reference for visitors to the forum.  

I served in HMS Pembroke from 1972 to 1981

It was the base for the following band over the years.

Western Fleet Band
C-in-C Fleet Band

HMS PEMBROKE Main Gate.

Changed a bit in this picture from when it was an operational base, In the middle was a small gate house/sentry box which controlled the barriers into and out of the camp. This also housed the tannoy system for annoucments and bugle calls and pipes when required.

To the right was the church (same design as Deal) and on the left was the guardroom, and cells, which a couple of our chaps became temporary residents of, during the years I was there.


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Officers Mess/Wardroom

Main entrance to Officer Mess/Wardroom and accommodation block.

Played many a tune while the ossifers ate a hearty meal and ran up their mess bills


Up in the minstrel’s gallery from which, if you were lucky, you could catch a glimpse of a Jenny getting changed in her room. The room where we played overlooked the WRENS accommodation.




View from other side of the block.

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Parade ground.

Parades/Divisions in the mornings and on Friday afternoons (just when everyone wanted to get away for the weekend).

In the distance is the tunnel from which we would start our march on with the Naval guard.

Last building on the left is the gym (Played in there for a few RN boxing matches).
Preceeding building is the swimming pool (with a sauna).

Buildings on the left were Dockyard buildings, but was, in earlier times, the drill shed.

You can still see the white line where the Naval guard would line up on and where the Drum Major would march us along, on the march past. (Sometimes at a very fast beat if the heavens were dowing it upon us, or it was freezing)

The steps on the right led up to the main road and accommodation blocks.




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Saluting Dias and steps.

Looking from the parade ground.
(Just where the band would be formed up).

The dias, was (in my time) a platform dias on the parade ground level with 3 steps leading up to it.

The band practice room and barber shop were in the accommodation block on the right of the picture.

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Anson Block




Nelson Block

WRNS accommodatikon block!!!!!
(Strictly out of bounds to all ranks - even Dusty Millar, lol)




Granville Block

This was my first accommodation block when I was posted to Pembroke.

All the band inliers lived in the attic at the far end.
This block was also where the Pembroke Club was situated and the disco nights here, were great.
Grenville Block also housed the NAFFI Club.
The NAFFI Shop (a prefabricated building) was also between this and another building.  



Buildings I cannot find pictures of:
Mountbatten Block - New accommodation which was falling down within six months of moving in.
Small drill shed - where we used to play 5-a-side football every lunchtime (trying to kick Dave Dawson (Drum Major)
Galley - great meals as this was the RN cookery school and we got to eat all their pass out food in the galley.
Nick B

It all sends a few shivers down my spine Bob! I was there for the dying embers of TF and the hand over to Ted Whealing. Evening Soirees in the wardroom, Port and Starboard Band, Rivs Howgills' missing seg on His shoe, clopping down the colonade and the smell of a Drum Majors pipe!!

Pat and I lived in Royal Sovereign Ave. and had many a good night in the Pembroke Familys' club. I'm sure many an inlier was glad of the 'Gate' close by when shore leave had expired!!  
joe90

2C, I think you may find we were in the attic in Duncan Block (no longer standing nor is Hawke - Pembroke Club and NAAFI). I'm sure Grenville block housed the galley. In '68 when I first arrived in Pembroke there was a half building in between the two that I think housed the coal shed. I'm up at Rochester Cathedral tomorrow for a graduation ceremony and may be able pop into Pembroke before coming back down to Canterbury. Hopefully get some piccies (if it's not raining)
MrJpig

I know these are posted elsewhere but here they are again ..










euphless

Re: HMS Pembroke

It was the base for the following band over the years.

Western Fleet Band
C-in-C Fleet Band


In the 50's it was home to the Nore Command Band which had the last 2 members of the Chatham Divisonal Band.
Hornblower

OMIGOD!!!!!!!  

That last photo! I'm in it and didn't have a 'kin clue!!!!!

Stupid boy's got a stupid grin all over his stupid face....

Jumpy - you HAVE to e mail me that pic (please?)

Brill - I love it.

Bob. the NAAFI shop was in the end of ANSON - See the door at the end of the block? That's the very door you went in. Then they built the larger one in between the two blocks.

I admire the way you put your head on the 'block' with this one. I wouldn't dare try to rely on my memory, I'd be shot to bits by you lot...
Eric Hayward

The Band of CinC Nore Command based at HMS Pembroke under the Direction of Lt. Tom Merrett ceased to exsist in 1961 on the closure of the Command. This was also when the last two members of the Chatham Division Band retired. They were Sgt Vic Chandler and Cpl Ernie Rann who was the Drum Major for many years and who taught me how to perform the same duties. These two members were not allowed to wear the old Division cap badge but actually did so on he last day of their service. Well at that time they couldn't be charged could they.
Eric Hayward

I forgot to say that I served in the Nore Command Band from '56 to '61 and your pictures have certainly brought back memories. The WRENs moved into the block next door to the Officers mess the year before the closure of the command and it somehow promted almost the full band to volunteer for Guest Night orchestra in the gallery. Also there were many times that I left through those gates with my heart in my mouth and two or three hundred "Blue Liners".(duty Free cigs) in the tool box of my side car combiation.
MrJpig

Hornblower wrote:
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Jumpy - you HAVE to e mail me that pic (please?)



Stu, just right click and save pic as...
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joe90 wrote:
2C, I think you may find we were in the attic in Duncan Block (no longer standing nor is Hawke - Pembroke Club and NAAFI). I'm sure Grenville block housed the galley. In '68 when I first arrived in Pembroke there was a half building in between the two that I think housed the coal shed. I'm up at Rochester Cathedral tomorrow for a graduation ceremony and may be able pop into Pembroke before coming back down to Canterbury. Hopefully get some piccies (if it's not raining)


All

Thanks for your responses, they have all been helpful and interesting and I'm sure there are more posts to come (when MBT rouses from his San Miguel induced stupor)


Thanks Alick,
More recent ones would be interesting to see.
Come on, start one on HMS EAGLE. You must have some piccys somewhere in your loft and it's easy to start.  

I was guessing about the block name for when I was first drafted there, but as you have correctly pointed out, and it now rings a bell, we were in Duncan Block. (Too many Admirals’ names to remember)

We could go from one end of the block to the other through the attic space and nonchalantly walking DOWN the stairs (from the direction of the female toilets) into the Pembroke Club, on disco nite, without paying to get in. Ha ha ha!


Thanks Stu,
Why don't you start a new thread and have a go with one of your postings.

You've probably got enough photos to do it and, as I said in my opening post, let people add, correct and contribute. It's all a matter of memory, recollections, incidents and perspective.
Try Northolt or BRNC.

I was only stationed in two places, Deal and Chatham.
Now I have posted threads on both. I've done the RMSM thread of M Wing (Neptune House is and always was the best as was Port Band at cricket over Starboard band) and now I've started this one on Pembroke.

JC has started the one on Depot RM Deal


Thanks Andy
The newspaper article was great and the photos….also great.
Nice to see a big crowd for the farewell and to see a moustachioed HB waving to his fans.............
For god’s sake, send him the picture electronically, he’s getting old and technology can sometimes be a bit too much when nearing retirement.
Hornblower

MrJpig wrote:
Hornblower wrote:
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Jumpy - you HAVE to e mail me that pic (please?)



Stu, just right click and save pic as...


Oh yeah...

I was excited is all!!



Bob has apoint about age though  
Hornblower

Just had a sudden flashback - the block that we were in was HAWKE block.

There was us 3 newbies - Geoff Truss, Bob and me - in the outer attic room and in the inner room we had Alick, Taff Cox(?) Taff Kinsey(?) Jack Frost, Twig Tray, Andy Mytum, Mick Murray, 'Drone' Smithson, Percy Pinder(?) Charlie Ankers(?)

Alick, I'm sure you'll be able to edit this list to come up with the right names.   You 'old sweats' were fresh off HMS Victorious and HMS Eagle as I recall?

The rest of the existing Chatham inliers were in the attic of another block that Rab used to reside in.

Then, after a few months, we all moved into the brand new Mountbatten block which, as Bob rightly states, was condemned as uninhabitable and used as a transit block.

We all moved again into one of the refurbished accomm blocks to find that we were no longer confined to the 'penthouse suite'.

Halcyon days.  
2nd Clarinet

Great recall Stu.


Andy Mytum = press ups, sit up, health foods (before it was vogue) his tatts, and, after he married and moved to Dargets Wood, his remote TV aerial.

lol............

Also, days when sugar, coffee and 'condensed milk' was mixed in yer mug before the addition of hot water.

Condensed milk? you ask.....yep, and it was great.
RAB

Hornblower wrote:

The rest of the existing Chatham inliers were in the attic of another block that Rab used to reside in.



Oh yes, and a fine upstanding bunch we had as well. Such potential leaders as Swede Moyle, Phil (the wasp swatter) Howarth, Stanley Bugles, Gypsy Rose Lee Ryan,  to name a few. I, too remember the fabbo scran in Pembroke, and tot was still on the go then as well. That was a regular starter for ten most days for many of my colleagues, but never me...   .. I was too young so had to play catch-up with pints of cider and black..  The passageway connecting the two attics had to be treated with great respect after a good sesh, and that memory is with me forever. Thus came the name The Mushroom Band. (pre-Doggend days)  
Len

RAB wrote:
Hornblower wrote:

The rest of the existing Chatham inliers were in the attic of another block that Rab used to reside in.



Oh yes, and a fine upstanding bunch we had as well. Such potential leaders as Swede Moyle, Phil (the wasp swatter) Howarth, Stanley Bugles, Gypsy Rose Lee Ryan,  to name a few. I, too remember the fabbo scran in Pembroke, and tot was still on the go then as well. That was a regular starter for ten most days for many of my colleagues, but never me...   .. I was too young so had to play catch-up with pints of cider and black..  The passageway connecting the two attics had to be treated with great respect after a good sesh, and that memory is with me forever. Thus came the name The Mushroom Band. (pre-Doggend days)  
Is that gypsy ryan the same as the teddy edward ryan at fosni?
never made it to the dod end band... but fosni then came a close second.
sticky blue

RAB wrote:
Hornblower wrote:

The rest of the existing Chatham inliers were in the attic of another block that Rab used to reside in.



Oh yes, and a fine upstanding bunch we had as well. Such potential leaders as Swede Moyle, Phil (the wasp swatter) Howarth, Stanley Bugles, Gypsy Rose Lee Ryan,  to name a few. I, too remember the fabbo scran in Pembroke, and tot was still on the go then as well. That was a regular starter for ten most days for many of my colleagues, but never me...   .. I was too young so had to play catch-up with pints of cider and black..  The passageway connecting the two attics had to be treated with great respect after a good sesh, and that memory is with me forever. Thus came the name The Mushroom Band. (pre-Doggend days)  


I remember it well  
StickyBlue

After passing out of training I spent many years at Deal before being sentenced to the penal colony in Chatham in 1978 and then on to RAF Northolt, not my first choice of a draft, but I have to say, looking back on it, perhaps through rose coloured spectacles, I made the most of a bad job and enjoyed myself there. I've got some more old photos I will rake out later but for the time being here is one of the band marching out of the main gate:-

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Some more 'old' pictures of HMS Pembroke

HMS Pembroke from the air.





HMS Pembroke main gate.





[u]HMS Pembroke Mountbatten Block.[/u]

StickyBlue

Another photo of The Band in front of the Main Dock Yard Gates. Not sure when it was taken but must have been early 70's as Pete Sumner was DOM

RAB

I THINK that's me on pot on the right, and Eric McKone on the other side. I also THINK it's Cpl. Duggie Drysedale second from right in Bulgers...
That would date it late '69 - early '70.

But I could be wrong... AGAIN..!!!  
StickyBlue

It would appear for those of us that served at Chatham, that it was nothing new in the way we behaved, we were following an old tradition of cricket and beer from the 1890's as this old news paper clipping says :-

   


Cheshire Cat

Is that Dave Dawson as Drum Major leading the Band out of the Main Dockyard Gates at Chatham ?
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Certainly is Dave Dawson.

That would make it after Drummy Andy Croft's time, RAB.

The buglar on right 'looks' like Addy Harper and the second right, front row, looks like Mr Adamson (without 'tache).

The occaision would probably have been the exercising our Freedom of Chatham, with;
Swords drawn, drums beating, bands playing, Colours flying and bayonets fixed.
StickyBlue

2nd Clarinet wrote:
Parade ground.
You can still see the white line where the Naval guard would line up on and where the Drum Major would march us along, on the march past. (Sometimes at a very fast beat if the heavens were dowing it upon us, or it was freezing)]

A photo of Friday Divisions marching along the white line you mentioned Bob in 1980.
As you can see we were freezing this particular day and it was snowing a blizzard.
The Band marched off at about 130 paces to the minute with the Matelots hopping and skipping behind trying to keep up with us........

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I was probably on that one, freezing me crown jewels off!

Definately MBT with 'bone slanting down, (he was only a little chap and it got heavy towards the end of Divisions).


Because of the weather, the picture looks as if it was taken in the '30s, good piccy Sticky!

Anyone got pictures of the Attics?
MrJpig

I remember that day....covered with snow down one side after standing in it for so long    
RAB

2nd Clarinet wrote:
Certainly is Dave Dawson.

That would make it after Drummy Andy Croft's time, RAB.



Yes Bob,  I wasn't sure, but the more posts, the more we can narrow down the accuracy of the era. I honestly can't even remember our Drummy's name, but I DO remember Paddy Weeks..
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I, like many others from that era and place, don't want to remember HIM.

Mr Bass Trombone

Certainly is Dave Dawson at the head of the Band (Andy Crofts left a couple of years into my time there) so it would be in my time at Pembroke72/81, and as previously stated the right gig as well, probably late 70s looks like Charlie Miller on Bass on the dockyard gate side of the of the band, may even have been the one where dear old Rivs Howgill upset during the morning and I played half a beat   behind him( Bass solo of Trafalgar included)all the way from Gillingham to Chatham made his hands bleed that he did not upset me again before a marching gig. I think it may have been almost his last one before he became TFs desk jockey and also fellow FM.
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2nd Clarinet wrote:


Also, days when sugar, coffee and 'condensed milk' was mixed in yer mug before the addition of hot water.

Condensed milk? you ask.....yep, and it was great.


Just a thought........

Does anyone out there still put tinned milk in their coffee????????
StickyBlue

I can't remember if you were still there in 1981 Bob the old grey matter is dying off rapidly, but as I/C Corps of Drums I got a request for a Bugler for a Burial of an old shipmate from the main gate staff via the Band Sec.
Nothing unusual in that I hear you saying, but this particular 'Funeral' made the National Press, (the Sun, Star and Mirror)




euphless

OK.
Which of you drunken dogends ran over Charlie!!!
sticky blue

It twern't me  
sticky blue

Brian Peever was the D/M back in the early 70's on my first visit to Chatham Band.
2nd Clarinet

2nd Clarinet wrote:
2nd Clarinet wrote:


Also, days when sugar, coffee and 'condensed milk' was mixed in yer mug before the addition of hot water.

Condensed milk? you ask.....yep, and it was great.


Just a thought........

Does anyone out there still put tinned milk in their coffee????????


After a weeks posting, no one has answered this, so I can only surmise the following;

No one uses condensed milk in their coffeee nowadays, or

No one will admit to it, or

Everyone has an expensive Italian Espresso/Cappuccino coffee machine.



Having thought about it, I will buy a small tin this weekend an try it again. I'll report back on Monday as to how it went......
sticky blue

I don't put milk in coffee, I don't drink coffee that offten, Tea's for me  
Mr Bass Trombone

I will provide you with an answer Bob.
My Spanish son in law his mother and sisters still put condensed milk in their coffee. So there is at least one answer you have had.
Adios, Hasta Octubre????
RAB

sticky blue wrote:
Brian Peever was the D/M back in the early 70's on my first visit to Chatham Band.



Ahaaaaaaaaaaaa...  Cheers Tommo.. That's the DM's name from my time.

He was OK as far as I remember..... But I only ever saw his back.. Perhaps he had 2 faces...    

The condensed milk was a luxury compared to the fact we had to use hot water from the tap.  Only the official 'Nutty Bar' was allowed to use a kettle then....  

Perhaps that changed in the VERY late '60's....  

I use propa milk now, but always run the tap for a while before stirring in the coo juice...  
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