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| yakety-daughter |
Hi, I'm Paul Moody's daughterHello,I'm Paul Moody's daugher, I was just a tiny girl when my dad was pensioned out in 1981. I was nine..lol. I've found some photo's recently, I am wonder if anyone could put a date or names to some of them... http://www.facebook.com/profile.p...m.php?aid=22510&id=1313397796 I obviously know a few of them are on Brittania or associated with her, On the back of one of them, the one on the veranda deck of Brittania, it says practicing for Beat Retreat, Barbados... doesn't anyone know what year that would have been. I am really keen on setting up a website about my dad, and his days in the Marine band. if anyone out there has any stories amusing or otherwise please let me know... I would be so interested in hearing them. Kelly Ryder (nee moody)[/url] |
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| medrummer |
Hi kelly,
I am sure someone here will be able to help you out. I have tried the link in your post but it seems to require facebook registration to see the pics and some of the silvers surfers here might not want that, any chance of uploading the pictures here or a site with easier access? kind regards Brian |
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| townsergeant |
Here's the pick of them:
Dave White, far right rear rank. Second front rank, face is familiar? 
Chris Davis PDM (retired) Jay O'Neill, Paddy McDermott, Brick Wall & 'Pusser.' (DOM is Peter Heming) 
Well before my time! 
(Kevin Vickers on Cello!) 
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| yakety-daughter |
yes, I will try to up load them here.... wait a mo...
I've just created a on-line album, hopefully this will work http://www.flickr.com/photos/38013967@N02/ if not I will try something else, I can't seem to upload directly onto here Kelly |
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| yakety-daughter |
Thanks townsergeant! | ||||||
| RAB |
Front far right is the famous GEORGE COAD (RIP), of whom there are still many untold dits... 
Looks like Graham Hoskins conducting the big band..?? Very warm welcome to the Forum yaketty-daughter. I remember your dad but only met him very briefly when I was a very young musician and he wasn't... 
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| yakety-daughter |
Thanks RAB, I'm happy to be here and hopefully looking forward to any stories people have of my dad. I remember visiting Eastney Barracks with many times during my early childhood and Dadealus (not sure if that is spelt correctly). I think the HMRM is as much part of me as it was my dear dad. | ||||||
| lesbryan |
Thats the same for me i cant look either 
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| yakety-daughter |
Everyone should be able to look here... created a Flickr account... when I am to next I should have some more photo's to show everyone.
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| Wee Mac |
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| townsergeant |
Colin Brocklebank, Second in the rear rank? | ||||||
| yakety-daughter |
Well dad is first bank rank... gotta love the glasses, they were alot more sutle in his older age...lol | ||||||
| Wee Mac |
I think from an historic point, this photo was taken at CTCRM and it shows a syndicate/class, of the very 1st Band Service JCC. Note the brand new Jersey's that they are wearing. It was probably taken around early 1972. I was a young Bugler fresh out of training in Eastney and I can recall a youngish Charlie Flemming, borrowing one of my Jumpers for the JCC. (Lovats were the Dress of the day at Eastney and the green jumpers were a new thing and some of the older members of the band, had not got round to getting the new ones). | ||||||
| Nick B |
Is it John Cockwill next to Dave White on the rear rank? 
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| Nick B |
Sorry Yakety-Daughter I should have said 'A very warm welcome to the Forum' Ahemm Madhouse.....
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| euphless |
Could it be Alan Ham? |
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| Nick B |
You could be right there Euphless
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| Wee Mac |
Alan is not that old is he ? |
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| StickyBlue |
Welcome to the Forum, Rodney Mann, Cpl Bugler, second from right, front rank next to George Coad (RIP).
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| Nick B |
There could be some serious Bert shaping here Wolfy!! Any comments? 
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| RAB |
It's not Cockles or Hammy I'm afraid chaps... 
2nd from right rear looks like a guy a bit older than me.. JAMES M.B. ?? I bet Dan would know...
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| yakety-daughter |
Could this be a sergeant course? If it's 1972... that could be probably I think. Or maybe colour sergeant course? | ||||||
| 2nd Clarinet |
Welcome to the forum Yakety-Daughter.
I served with your dad, Paul, when he was at HMS Pembroke (C-in- C Fleet) in the '70s. Like him, I also played the Viola. We shared a room in Pembroke and used to sit next to each other for orchestra and had a few laughs and many beers together on gigs around the country and abroad. I remember he looked forward each weekend we weren't working, where he would go home to Pompey to see his family (unless it was the end of the month and was awaiting payday). 'A good bloke and friend' was your father!
Be proud of him and WELL DONE for setting up a website in his memory. |
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| Wee Mac |
Definitely Junior Command Course YD. They are all L/Cpl's. So this story goes, as told by Dave Theophilus, who was on that particular course. At the start of such a course, all the students are assembled and the Training Team introduced to the budding NCO's. Such was the standing of the late George Coads character, just as one of the training team was about to start introducing his staff, one of the students stood up and introduced George to all those present.
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| yakety-daughter |
thank you 2nd Clarinet.
I am very very proud of my dad. I was 9 when he left in 1981. But I do remember alot, especially visits to Eastney and Deal and Dadealus. I am so happy that I found this forum, somehow it keeps his memory alive being here. I remember dad telling me that he really missed us when he wasn't around. My mum has even more stories but she gets so upset talking about him it vertially impossible to talk about him, so to be here is wonderful for me. I'm going to try and get a few stories about my dad, piece them together and when I am happy about it that's when I will do his website. I know dad was known as yakety, so therefore I am yakety-daughter... did dad have anymore nicknames? I think 'moods' was one. Kelly |
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| yakety-daughter |
Thank you Wee Mac, my guess was right. I have managed to get hold of dad's service records... but I don't have permanent access to them, should be able to get them again at the end of May, when hopefully I should be able to scan them... so at the moment, every picture is a bit of a guess when and were, but with all these bandies around it shouldn't take long to piece things together. 
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| Wee Mac |
When you dear dad was discharged, he should have been given his R141's, which were his record of service in each band in which he served. If you can locate them, they will provide you with a clearer picture of his movements / courses and the corresponding dates. Also to be found on his Service Certificate | ||||||
| RAB |
 ..Well that takes care of that little piece of ambiguity Mac..
I don't want to hijack this precious thread, (so don't let me ) but if any of you have never heard of or had the pleasure of meeting GEORGE COAD (RIP), just type his name in the search box, and enjoy the various dits scattered around this site. One thing for sure Yaketty, your dad would be WELL entertained on that course..
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| Hornblower |
Welcome to the forum Yakety!
I too served with your Dad at Chatham, along with 2nd Clarinet. I have a couple of memories of him, but because I was a bit of a rebel and he was already a corporal, we didn't exactly 'hit it off'!! However, I think I'm going to surprise you (and maybe a few others) when I tell you this little dit, which is true 'cos I saw it... We were in Gib sometime in the '70's and one of our motley crew, who shall remain nameless unless others (or himself) wish to divulge, was mercilessly winding your Dad up. He took it for a very long time, it went on over at least 2 days, then, in the NAAFI - he cracked. He picked up the Bad Boys' egg banjo and thrust it full in the face of the miscreant 
None of us could believe our eyes, not least the hapless recipient there was snotty yellow egg running down his face - but the best was yet to come.
The Bad Boy ran his tongue around his lips, pondered for a second, looked your Dad straight in the eye and said these priceless words... "Not enough salt for me." The place just erupted in bellows of laughter, because we thought it was all bound to end in tears. Well, it did actually! Tears of laughter.
Did you think your Dad was capable of such a thing? He was sorely tested and all of us there agreed that the Bad Boy got his just reward. However the real winners were those who saw the whole thing. Cracking!!!! Just to clear up one thing, I wasn't the Bad Boy, I was too busy winding up Cpl Pete Rutterford at the time as I remember. So, who was it? Anyone? You might be surprised! |
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| yakety-daughter |
That is absolutely price-less! ! ! ! 
Love to hear stories like that, a huge smile spread across my face right now... Good old dad..... though very tolerant of him, sometimes it did take alot to wind him up, well me as a teenager did quiet well.. thanks so much Hornblower... |
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| 2nd Clarinet |
yakety. Here is a picture (supplied by Hornblower - HB) of C-in-C Fleet Band in Gibraltar. Your dad is the 3rd from left clarinet section. I'm sure this will jog the memories of ALL those members on this site who knew and served with your dad, to look through their collection of piccys and see if he is in them and if so, post them on here. |
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| yakety-daughter |
I see him, thanks 2nd Clarinet. Nice to have these pic's of dad. Mum put away alot of them when dad died, I guess she didn't want any reminders around the place. So the only chance I have to look through his pictures is when mum is away on holiday. So having these new ones are very precious to me. When she goes away again (which is fairly soon... the end of May), I should be able to post some more. They aren't just of dad, there is a variety of photo's all through his career. HMS Lion and HMY Britannia as well. i have a brillant one of several bandies and dad sunbathing on the yaght!
By way could someone please explain to me a dog-end band? I have absolutely no I idea what it means. |
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| Wee Mac |
Go on Stuey, tell her. Perhaps now, you can finally let us know the true origins of the term "DOG END"
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| Hornblower |
Ha ha!!!!
You don't get me that easily old boy!! this one could run and run! Right from the very beginning of this forum I've been letting people know that I was there wehn the term was born - because I was! But, I would really like for someone else (who is/are member(s) of the forum to tell the dit... Tell you what, I'll give you a all a clue - one of the people there at the moment of conception was none other than George Tate. George, if you're on here in any guise or just as a visitor - tell us if you remember how the term 'Dog-end' band was born.
Yakety - Dog-end is a supposedly derogatory term for the Fleet Band that was at that time based at HMS Pembroke in Chatham. I say supposedly because in fact we all took it up with zeal and became quite proud of the name. A reflection on our attitudes at the time perhaps, but none the less that's how we felt about it. We, along with pretty much of the rest of the Band Service, were also known amongst ourselves as mushrooms, I guess you can figure that one out!!? Stuey aka HB
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| yakety-daughter |
Ok! So my dad played in the dog-end band, telling people that he was mushroom 
thanks stuey... that made my day
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| 2nd Clarinet |
yakety-daughter
Below are some explanations of Dog-end Band, posted by some of the forum members. Take your pick......... 'Kielerwoche' wrote "......what exactly was the dog end band" It was an antidote designed to combat the worst effects of the plague which tormented the land in bygone era called DoMitis. The sufferers wondered around in zombie-like manner, till they fell over on their backs, with legs and arms waving in the air, and gibbering the phrase "Dead Ants" over an over again until they died an agonizing death. The antidote enabled sufferers to grow an extra thick skin, and the holes in their ears grew filters so they could not hear DoM-speak which tormented the soul of listeners and led many to commit suicide. Dog-ends were easy to spot as they also grew their hair long to further protect the ears and wore dirty t-shirts with an amulet printed on the front for further protection from the "scourge. 'Horblower' wrote Dogends were a mean bunch of wandering minstrels borne of a need for some lesser souls to perform marching displays that their betters wouldn't look down their noses at. Unfortunately, for a succession of DofM's, those Dogends - as they became known - needed great amounts of alcohol to keep up their spirits in times of great stress caused by the amount of brown sticky stuff they were relentlessly fed. Whilst they saw their smarter and better treated compatriots jetting off round the world in great luxury (e.g. a cruise on the QE2 or a well paid tour of the USA to name but 2) Dogends were 'treated' to the grey funnel line cruises to some very scummy places, where of course they continued their habit of imbibing great amounts of the 'falling down water'. there were times they were not fed and they rebelled, there were times they were pushed from pillar to post - they made their feelings known through the medium of very disrepectful song and prose. As a steady procession of very able musicians came and went to and from the Chatham Band, so the reputation grew. This was the place to be if you wanted to be forever known as a Dogend. Each and every DofM tried to break the resilience of the hardcore members - trying everything from fines to imprisonment - but nothing seemed able to break the indomitable spirit of the fine chaps who worked hard (because they had to) and played hard (because they wanted to) all round the world. Little did the heirarchy know that it was themselves who were causing all their own troubles - the harder they tried to break the Dogends, the more resistant they became to the puerile efforts. If only someone had the sense to treat the Dogends like adults and pay them a wee bit of respect it could have all ended so differently! But no, they drafted in more and more SNCO's whose avowed intent was to make their mark and break the resistance. Some cracked and some actually joined the Dogends for wets, but none were successful in their mission. Some had double agents, but these were sniffed out and summarily punished. In the end there was only one way of sorting out the problem, first they moved the whole shebang to a suburb of London in the hope that the lack of access to the million Gillingham pubs (one on every corner) would break them. When this did not occur, they only had one Ace left up their sleeve. Disbandment. The band were banned. Chatham band went to the wall, then Fleet band (who continued to fly the flag long after the 'originals' had gone) were summarily axed. They said it was due to cutting costs - but many of us Dogends know. It was the only way 'they' were going to win. They can't take our memories. UP AND AT 'EM CHATHAM!! '2nd Clarinet' wrote It was conceived a long time ago, in ages past, when darkness enveloped the earth......... A mystical force gathered some 'chosen' men from all the peoples of Britain. These 'chosen' warriors were to become a beacon to many others in the land and were to gather near the River Medway in the ancient land of the Kent people by a place called...............shhhhhh! Speak this word softly......'Chatham'. These 'chosen' were to become known as 'Chatham Dogends' to the 'Higher' elite. Of these elite, some were 'Higher' by their rank in that land, others just thought they were special as they were the servants of the 'elite'. But they would hunt through these lands and torture the 'Dogends' for many years to rid the lands of them, but to no avail.....the strength of these mighty few, was great and their thoughts pure, which would one day lead then to victory over those that thought to persecute them.
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| yakety-daughter |
Great reading..... wouldn't know which one to pick, but they are all very interesting.
Another question (sorry so many), did the Chatham band ever take part in the Royal Tournament? I know it was generally the massed bands of the royal marines, but I wouldn't know which bands would have taken part. I remember visiting dad once when he was taking part in it.. and he took us to where the bands were staying. If my memory serves me right it was underneath the arena. Or if I have got that completely wrong it was somewhere else, like a massive hall, everyone had their own bunks. |
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| townsergeant |
Yes, it was a massive hall and thankfully, we did have our own bunks! Chatham Band would have indeed took part in many Royal Tournaments. The hall you refer to was called Warwick Hall and it was located in the attic of Earls Court. |
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| 2nd Clarinet |
'Chatham Band' took part in the 1977 Royal Tournament.
TS will post the order of music played.............
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| Wee Mac |
Brilliant Chatham dits HB & 2nd Clart. Makes me feel homesick. More, more!
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| townsergeant |
Don't remember what was played, but it was the Silver Jubilee Year. Many a celebration! 
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| Wee Mac |
A nice picture of Breadhead |
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| Nick B |
Didn't we all get a coin or something for that year? Or am I getting mixed up  (Or was it the Queens shilling!)
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| Wee Mac |
Don't remember what year they started giving them out but I have a couple of those coins from RT's | ||||||
| yakety-daughter |
Hello again
Been at work all day, so have missed the last few posts. Right, so Warick Hall was were all stayed, I remember it being very very cramped, but glad bandies didn't have to share bunks! The coins... well dad does have quiet a few of those.... so maybe I could take some photo's and post them up... maybe a few people would like to see them again if they didn't keep their's. Awwwww 1977 I would have been 6... 
Dad told me of a year when one of the gun carriage horse had to be put to sleep in the arena... wasn't very pleasant if he could remember it years and years after. |
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| yakety-daughter |
Does anyone know why dad was nicknamed Yakety? I know it has something to do with his 'sax' 
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| Wee Mac |
Must have been the year, when we were suddenly given Steak for Tea.
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| yakety-daughter |
Ok... I've managed to raid dad's service records once more...
RM School of Music 5th July 1955 to 7th June 1958 Eastney 8th January 1959 to 8th April 1962 HMS Lion 31st July 1962 to 12 April 1963 ( August 63 dad married mum) HMS Excellent 15th June 1964 to 5th Febuary 1967 HMY Brittania 15th October 1968 to 5th December 1968 HMY Brittania 9th January 1971 to 16th May 1971 HMY Brittania 28th January 1975 to 20th May 1975 HMS Pembroke (Chatham) 5th January 1976 to 3rd January 1977 HMY Brittania 10th January 1979 to 31st March 1979 HMS Cochrane 18th September 1979 to 22th July 1980 HMS Daedelus until 5th April 1981...... pensioned out All the times inbetween these dates dad was either at Eastney (mainly) or Deal. Then a few weeks (maybe about 12? of various training and promotion courses )
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| yakety-daughter |
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| Wee Mac |
I don't feel so old now, looks like your dad joined the day after my 1st birthday. 
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| yakety-daughter |
He literally was in for a life time.
When he joined up, he joined with his brother Gary (who died 6 months after dad), Gary joined for the minimum time back then and dad just kept adding more years.... 26 and a half years is a fair time to spend I think... he had a couple of long service medals.... |
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| Wee Mac |
He must have joined when he was 14? 22 years plus "Boys time" | ||||||
| yakety-daughter |
14 yrs 4 months... accroding to those dates.... seems so young in todays standards... but then it's all good.
I was the smartest brownie in town, and the only one with spit and polish school shoes
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| Wee Mac |
Who did the polishing, you or your dad? | ||||||
| yakety-daughter |
Dad showed me how, but I am glad that he did, because my daughter (Charlotte she was two when he died) now has the smartest shoes in school... | ||||||
| StickyBlue |
 Wetting myself Mac, Nice one
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| Wee Mac |
Could have been worse, the word horse, might have started with a W. Now that would have been a sight to see.
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| yakety-daughter |
people are up so early around here....
OK, todays question... is there anyway that I could find out where the Brittania went on certain dates? I've got the 1975's one.... Madria, Antigua, Bahamas, Mexico, Belice, Bay Islands, New Orleans, Bermuda, Jamaica and azores. |
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| Wee Mac |
1988, the Far East, Australia etc | ||||||
| yakety-daughter |
right... off to dreaded work again... talk more later guys... by for now | ||||||
| Nick B |
Col Jim Mason (Ex DOM Royal Yacht & passed PDM) is a forum member, I'm sure He has very extensive knowledge of HMRY Brittannia in your Fathers day |
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| yakety-daughter |
Thanks Nick. I certainly rememebr Jim Mason's name being mention on a very frequent basis...  i hope he comes to the forum soon.
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| Nick B |
Why don't you send Him a PM I am sure He will be more than happy to help you
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| yakety-daughter |
Thanks Nick, I will do that..... | ||||||
| Hornblower |
During the years 1972 - 1977 & 1981 - 1984, (my Dogend days) I did the sum total of 1 RT. Fleet band simply didn't do many RT's due to being in Germany (Kiel) most years at the time it was on. Oh - the tears we shed...
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| Hornblower |
Well - he didn't, but I certainly remember the march on - "Blaze Away" I have 2 reasons for remembering it, one was hearing Gunner Yates in the band on the opposite side of the arena blasting out the declamatory high notes (up the octave) The other reason was marching on the last night with my "Blaze Away" march card literally blazing away 'cos Joe forbes had set light to it in my lyre. I saw no good reason to panic to put it out - it seemed a fitting end to the gig in my eyes. I like to think it added a certain something to the proceedings
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| yakety-daughter |
I bet it did hornblower!
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| bootybandy |
Has to be Lindars ?????????? Just to say I was also with your Dad in Chatham. The same room with 2nd Clarinet and a very good friend of mine, Brian "Goldy" Goldsmith (RIP). Looking at the dates that you have mentioned I was also in Scotland with him. A good man who was a very loud Viola player. |
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| yakety-daughter |
hi bootyband
I know a bit about dad's Clarinet and Sax but not alot about his Viola playing..... so I am grateful for that bit of info!!! |
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| 2nd Clarinet |
Hey Botty.
Was that the Ford Capri - Ghia era? Did we used to go to 'The Little Gem' Pub, in Aylesford in those days or was it a later period? |
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| 2nd Clarinet |
Hey HB and TS.
Just for the record............ Apart from Blaze Away we also slow marched to.......... Sailing (without Rod Stewart) On the last night, I remember the masssed band humming their parts in the quiet/piano section and culminating in one of the biggest crescendos I have ever played within a massed band. Brought tears to my eyes.... 
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| townsergeant |
It brought a lump to my trousers....
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| 2nd Clarinet |
Be thankful, then TS.
Better than Viagra and no side effects!
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| MrJpig |
AHHHHH The Little Gem....cracked me head on that door frame a few times. Brill Pub. My first experience of Theakstons OP 
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| yakety-daughter |
Now Ford Cparis are going back somehwhat
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| MrJpig |
Have you been drinking Pussers??
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| 2nd Clarinet |
Andy, Was that going in sober or coming out lissed when you hit the beam? Mind you, it was a low door and yes, I too cracked mine a few times. Building dates bact to 12th Century A good pint was 'Old Peculiar' A message inscribed on the wall of the Gents went thus..... I thought the bottom was falling out of my world, Then I drank Theakstons Old Peculiar. Now the world falls out of my bottom. Can't remeber the specific gravity. I do remember a group of us (Mr MBT included) collecting all the spill trays from ALL the Real Ales into two large jugs and empying them.............And then driving back to Chatham. |
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| yakety-daughter |
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| Hornblower |
Botty - I'm always gobsmacked by your memory
You are indeed correct, it was Dee Lindars who took the full force of the egg banjo full in the face. Were you there? I'm pretty certain, even with my fading memorial skills, that I haven't dressed the dit up. Here's a bonus question (to which I know the answer) whereabouts in Gib were we billeted? I'll be even morely impressed if you get this one correct... |
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| yakety-daughter |
I don't know where you were billeted... but I remember dad saying that the band played in some caves? Was the Gib?
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| 2nd Clarinet |
Yes, we played in St Micheal's Cave.
Botty. Was it Europa Barracks? |
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| yakety-daughter |
How long did the Chatham band stay in Gib, or would it have been a one off? | ||||||
| Nick B |
Would that be St Michaels cave. Lathbury Barracks at Europa Point Bob?
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| Hornblower |
Ha ha Botty - you were beaten to it!
Yes - Lathbury barracks it was. |
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| Hornblower |
It was a lot of one-offs actually YD. I personally visited there so many times that I lost count. I think it was a modest 7 times, could have been more though. We were never there for longer than about 10 days - as long as Crab Air could get you off the Rock!
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| 2nd Clarinet |
No Nick, It is...........St Michael ' s Cave (my spelling may have been out, but at least I included the apostrophe! 
And Yes, Lathbury Barracks it was........ 
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| yakety-daughter |
Right question of the day.....
I don't know which year, but I suspect it was in the early 70's, but there was a man... either onboard a ship... or at a barracks that used to make stuffed toys, would anyone know who this would be? I know it's a long shot, but I wanted to ask anyhow |
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| 2nd Clarinet |
Geppetto......? |
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| yakety-daughter |
Good try.... My gut feeling was dad brought them back after a long time away so it might have even been the yaght |
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| 2nd Clarinet |
Do you eat YAGHT in the morning poured over some fresh fruit? |
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| yakety-daughter |
ahhh bugger
That's what staying up late does for me 
I meant Royal Yacht Britannia |
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| Mr Bass Trombone |
Hi Yackety Daughter.
Time for me to come in on this one, first of all welcome to the madhouse that is known as the Forum, sorry it has taken a while but I have been away. I had the pleasure of knowing your father and brother Gary. I served with Gary at Deal in the early to mid 60s, now I will show my age I was in training at the same time as your Dad although he was a little older than me.I served with him at Eastney and HMS Pembroke. As for the photograph's you have some knowledge but not on the dance band. It was probably taken in the mid 60s Graham Hoskins is the Bandmaster in the front. Front Row, Tenor Sax's ???, Bill Williamson, Alto Sax's Pat Tevis, Bob Loft, Baritone Sax Guess Who.Trumpets ????? Dave Stockham,Charlie Soloman, Maxie Beare, Trombones, Paddy Mailey, John Sharpe, ??? not me I did not wear glasses in those day's could have been Chick Haynes?? I hope this is of use to you and maybe someone can fill in the gaps. Adios for now from Sunny Spain |
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| Hornblower |
^^^ Looks like we caught him in a sober moment! ^^^
That sentence makes absolute sense to me Mick, get yerself wrapped afound a few SM's as soon as you like and report back here when you've done so! Carry on
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| 2nd Clarinet |
It MUST be a first!!!!!!!!! |
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| yakety-daughter |
Hello Mr Bass Great to hear from you. I don't know if you know but Gary also passed away 6 months after my dad, he faught a long time with Cancer... and was even unable to attend my dad's funeral. It's always good hear names that I remember dad talking about... so a big hello from me! YD
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